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Kazzan
Dec 06, 2024MVP
Viva Goals Retirement
Hi, Microsoft just announce at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/viva/goals/goals-retirement that Viva Goals ending in December 2025.
How do you feel about this announcement? It was one of the top business use cases with significant business value in Viva Suite after Viva Topics deprecation.
- BerndLachnerHubdriveCopper Contributor
If you are interested in an OKR solution that is completely build on the Microsoft technology stack, then I recommend that you look at Hubdrive OKR. It is completely Power App based and therefore also seemless integrated in Teams and Outlook. Here you can find it on Appsource:
https://appsource.microsoft.com/en-us/product/dynamics-365/xrm1.objectives-and-keyresults-for-dynamics365?tab=Overview - hannahfrancisCopper Contributor
Wellingtone offers an OKRs Management App which is a replacement for the Viva Goals and available for your Microsoft 365 solution: https://eu1.hubs.ly/H0h7RGb0
- PhilipCox_OCCopper Contributor
Very disappointed to see Viva Goals being retired. The timeframe is also very short. We have tried many planning tools over the years and found Viva Goals to be easy to use and provided all the functionality we needed. Unless Microsoft is secretly planning to announce an AI based replacement sometime this year, the decision to retire the product this quickly seems strange.
- sonnygo2025Copper Contributor
Is Microsoft Perform and Engage 365 an alternative to Viva Goals? I can see this uses the OKR methodology too. I heard you can disable the performance part solely using the goal-setting functionality for strategic planning and alignment to organisational objectives.
- RobSotoIron Contributor
Hi sonnygo2025
Microsoft is not the developer of that platform; it is only made available in the Microsoft app store.
Here is the developer website:
OKR Software + SMART Goals for Microsoft Teams | Perform365
It appears to have potential as a replacement, but I recommend you explore it with them directly to be sure it's right for you.
- KarriHonkoilaCopper Contributor
I’m very disappointed too. We have used it a lot. I think it has all the features I need. No need to develop further, just keep running. Do you have experience on alternative tools? For example workpath?
- RobSotoIron Contributor
There are quite a few OKR alternatives. WorkboardAI, Mooncamp, and Quantive are three examples. I don't yet have any personal experience with these, but they seem like high value alternatives.
- ADR142385Copper Contributor
Highly disappointing as I love using Viva Goal for my organization and did not have it on my radar that in the middle of our strategic plan I need to go find a new tool to track everything. It was so nice that it was all integrated and updates from planner could feed into it.
I was even planning to give some of the other viva items another try in the new year but as one person already said I don’t feel comfortable investing in anything Viva related now.
- RobSotoIron Contributor
It is disappointing and creates some headache, but the good news is there are many OKR alternatives, so you should be safe. I understand why investing further in Viva sounds risky but there are at least three other apps that aren't going anywhere. Connections, Engage, and Amplify are here to stay. So don't shy away from those!
- jeongsooCopper Contributor
It is a pity. I think Viva has an advantage over other products because it can access internal enterprise information, such as org charts, task management with Planner, Power BI, and more. This integration allows for a comprehensive view of resources and tasks within the organization.
Of course, many customers don't use all of these products together; some use Trello instead of Planner for task management, while others use Tableau instead of Power BI. This means that many customers might miss out on experiencing this integrated power. However, I believe that effectively combining these tools is very powerful.
It is unfortunate if product development stops without continuing to improve the integration and synergy among these products. Such development in this direction is crucial for maximizing their benefits to users.
- TMBrass Contributor
I completely agree with your point about the integration Viva Goals offered within Office 365—it was a significant advantage. The ability to connect internal enterprise tools like org charts, Planner, and Power BI for a comprehensive view of resources and tasks was a powerful feature that set it apart from standalone OKR tools. I'm disappointed that Microsoft chose to retire Viva Goals, especially given their investment and the impact OKR software has had on modern business practices. They did an outstanding job developing it, and it's surprising they wouldn't maintain it as an add-on within Office 365. Perhaps adoption rates weren't as high as expected, but the OKR methodology remains vital for many leading organizations. I hope Microsoft reconsiders and finds a way to preserve this tool instead of letting such a well-developed product go to waste.
- Barry_MartinCopper Contributor
Absolutely shocked by this. This is(was) one of the best OKR tools in the market. Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement tool?
- Rob_Prenciu_98Copper Contributor
Surprising to see Viva Goals being retired so quickly. OKRs are essential for many teams, and the integration with Microsoft 365 made everything so much easier. If you're looking for an alternative, Mirro is an option for us, so far, it's been easy to use and focused on transparency and engagement. Really curious to see what solutions other companies will choose after this change.
- RobSotoIron Contributor
Yes, there are many alternatives. Some new, some more mature. WorkboardAI, Quantive, and Mooncamp are the ones that were most vocal in the LinkedIn community last week. I recommend you research the options for each and make sure the tool matches your need.
- KarriHonkoilaCopper Contributor
Thanks for information. This was bad surprise. We have been using Viva Goals. I think it already has all the features I need. Microsoft really rugged us
- RobSotoIron Contributor
I wasn't surprised by the retirement. I might be the odd ball out on that. But I've been supporting and implementing Viva for two years and not once has a customer of mine opted to use Viva Goals. And I had maybe 2 requests for a demo. I don't think it's because they deny its value. Rather, it was in a pricing tier that didn't match their budget, or it was too late in their fiscal year to invest.
I'm almost glad that they are slimming down the suite. Viva Topics is gone in January and with Goals gone in December that will leave 7 apps (Connections, Engage, Amplify, Glint, Insights, Pulse, Learning) and that's much easier to understand than 8. It makes sense because you can group the connective apps and the people science apps together more evenly and easily.
- atrain204Steel Contributor
TIL Viva 'Glint' is a thing 😅
- mmachtCopper Contributor
Very disappointed. This was a promising product. Wondering if MS intends to offer this functionality in another product, or will integrate with third-party vendors.
- RobSotoIron Contributor
They announced on the FAQ section of the KB article about the retirement that they have no intentions of future investments with OKRs or Viva Goals. But never say never!