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Cooper Beutel
Oct 05, 2018Copper Contributor
Start menu layout cannot be changed
Having just installed an evaluation copy of Windows Server 2019, I cannot make any changes to the start menu layout. For example; unchecking "Show app list in Start menu" from the Start menu settings does nothing. Attempting to choose which folders appear on the start menu does nothing also. Any changes to the tiles lasts until the next reboot where it's reset. Tiles will become unresponsive when attempting to drag them and then become "ghost" tiles that cannot be clicked on or moved/unpinned. This is a completely default and less than hour old install - absolutely no changes have been made thus far.
https://support.microsoft.com/help/4490481 - the KB doesn't specifically mention this bug, but the fix is included in this update. You can download from here: Microsoft Catalog
- Gary SearleCopper Contributor
Microsoft seem to have fixed this in the last round of updates.
The Start Menu on our 2019 Server (DC) is now working perfectly, when it was displaying the exact same symptoms as yours before and on every reboot / login.
- InVerterCopper Contributor
Gary SearleDo you know the KB number for the update that fixes the error?
- Dr. Jeffry A. SpainBrass Contributor
InVerter 2019-03 Cumulative Update for Windows Server 2019 (1809) for x64-based Systems (KB4490481)
- Dr. Jeffry A. SpainBrass Contributor
2019-03 Cumulative Update for Windows Server 2019 (1809) for x64-based Systems (KB4490481) is being offered through Windows Update as of today. It requires a reboot. Start Menu changes survive sign off / sign on afterwards.
- kjones1Copper Contributor
Same here as of 2/27/2019. Fully patched windows server 2019 standard.
- robb-flxCopper Contributor
i got told, the adminsitrator account is somehow a temporary profile which gets reset by logging out. This can be disabled somehow by policy. But hadn't time to look at it.
- Pete78Copper Contributor
robb-flx wrote:i got told, the adminsitrator account is somehow a temporary profile which gets reset by logging out. This can be disabled somehow by policy. But hadn't time to look at it.
Couldn't find anything on that but would be glad if the problem could be resolved so easily. Please look it up when you have the time. thx.
- Tobias HüpgenCopper ContributorHi Pete, I tested the issue again with a fresh installed, domain joined Windows Server 2019 with January patch level. The issue still exists.
- Cooper BeutelCopper Contributor
I am honestly baffled that an error so central to the core operation of Windows has STILL not been publicly acknowledged by Microsoft - in my situation, it has rendered my WS2019 lab VM's useless
- ClasseJohanssonCopper Contributor
Me too
- Pete78Copper Contributor
Hey everybody!
I'm experiencing the same problem. Any news on this?
Or maybe a response from MS?
- Deleted
I have 3 test 2019 servers in a domain all upgraded from 2016, one DC and two member servers, none of them are free of problems.
The DC still has this issue no matter what I do, latest updates, recreating profiles, the start menu always reverts to default. The two member servers are fine, although until this week their Windows Explorer would not display correctly when setting apps to "dark mode", they'd have white backgrounds for the address bars and context menus making them unreadable. Reseting the theme to default has fixed that.
- Chris SingletonCopper ContributorI think this issue seems to be being ignored. Whilst this issue will not impact a normal server deployment anyone using the server as a Citrix VDA or RDS Session host will not be able to without having no changes to the default start menu an option that is not possible for the majority of us.
- Chris McKennaCopper Contributor
Appears to have been (silently) resolved with 2018-12 Cumulative Update for Windows Server 2019 for x64-based Systems (KB4471332). Applied to a non-domain joined server, and Start Menu items are where I left 'em, and the 'new' flag on icons stays away once you right click Start Menu items.
Not tested on a domain-joined server, so if you wanna test that and report back, knock yer socks off.
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=2018-12
- Chris SingletonCopper Contributor
Hi Chris,
Nope still an issue after applying the KB
- Tobias HüpgenCopper ContributorAfter Windows Server 2019 is released for 2nd time - does anyone checked if the start still cannot be changed permanently?
- Raik TilitzkiCopper Contributor
Yes, but with the same issue, additionally in every installation-mode if the machine is domainjoined or not. there ist no workarround for this???!!!
- Cooper BeutelCopper Contributor
I managed to hide the all apps list via a registry change, but now the button to open the all apps list is completely missing. Something tells me WS2019 wasn't ready to be released... The documents and pictures buttons are also useless and fail to open explorer.
- InVerterCopper Contributor
If you add any file to the "c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu" folder (or in user profile Start Menu folder), it will cause the start menu to be updated. But this is a bug.
- Mary Hoffman
Microsoft
It is my understanding that a fix is coming and should be out this month. I will update you with the KB # once it is live. Thanks for your patience.
- Mark ConroyCopper Contributor
Hi Cooper,
A few extra local policy settings you can edit under 'User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar'
- Remove All Programs list from the Start menu : Set to 'Collapsed'
- Remove "Recently added" list from Start menu : Enabled
Sadly it looks like editing the 'Choose which folders to appear on Start' requires a fair bit of registry editing so probably not worth it at the moment.
Hope this helps : )
- Cooper BeutelCopper Contributor
Okay, so I resorted to plan B; install WS2019 core inside a Windows 10 Hyper-V host and use the Windows 10 machine as the GUI for WS2019 through RSAT, etc. however it would seem that Windows Deployment Server doesn't work in the core edition.
Back to square one. As much as I like the new features in WS2019, WS2016 has far less bugs and will be serving as my main server OS until MS sorts out WS2019.
- Mark ConroyCopper Contributor
Ok, managed to 'hack around' this to some extent until Microsoft actually fix the core issue.
I built a Start Menu layout file (LayoutModification.xml) which I am then applying using the 'Local Group Policy' setting for 'Start Menu'
User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar > 'Start Layout'
I enabled the setting and specified my LayoutModification.xml file and then restarted.
At each restart this start layout file now gets applied and subsequently the start menu gets sets to the layout I specified.
Attached is a copy of my LayoutModification.xml file
If you do not know how to build these manually then you can export your own from a configured start menu, however, you will need to be able to edit the start menu first so run the below in an elevated PowerShell session:
1. Right-click 'Start' > Windows PowerShell (Admin)
2. Run the following command
Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
Once the command is run you can then go into 'Settings' and apply the Start options you require. You can also then organise the layout of the start menu (pin apps etc.) as required. Make sure to not log off or restart or you will lose this!
Once you have the layout set that you require do the following:
1. Right-click 'Start' > Windows PowerShell (Admin)
2. Run the following command
Export-StartLayout -Path C:\LayoutModification.xml
3. Navigate to your exported LayoutModification.xml and copy / move it into an easily accessible folder (I used 'C:\System\StartMenu\LayoutModification.xml')
4. Right-click 'Start' > Run
5. Enter: gpedit.msc
6. In the Local Group Policy editor navigate to
User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar
7. Edit the 'Start Layout' policy setting
8. Set it to 'Enabled' and enter the path to your exported layout file
9. Apply the changes
Now when you restart the server the layout file should be applied every time and should no longer reset back to the generic layout.
NOTE: The 'Start' settings that you choose will be reset (curse you Microsoft!) but the actual layout of the pinned apps will stay as defined in the file. I guess we can control the other aspects, such as Apps List visibility, via other policy settings in the local GPO so will continue to look into those.
- Mark ConroyCopper Contributor
Hi Cooper,
We are experiencing the exact same issue as well.What we have noticed is that the issue only occurs for us when the Server 2019 box is part of a domain.
If we build a fresh new 2019 server (standalone) then the start menu works flawlessly. The second we promote the server to a Domain Controller (and subsequently log in as domain Administrator) then the start menu issue rears its ugly head!
- ChrigelCopper Contributor
I experienced the same, but the problem began not when I joined the machine to the domain but when I activated the License (no KMS installed in this environment). At this point, the system allows to change the design-settings (by design) and puts the start menu to default (by bug)
Anybody a clue?
- Tobias HüpgenCopper Contributor
Hi Chrigel,
I experienced the same issues.
Furthermore I'm not able to license any Windows Server 2019 via VLSC license keys (MAK activation).
Windows Server 2019 Evaluation media isn't available in the evaluation center. Seems like this will become a real nice server OS...
Greets
Tobi